Is God Real? How We Can Know for a Fact

How many times have you seen videos and articles claiming to prove God’s existence or non-existence? I know I have certainly seen a ton of them. In my opinion, every single one of them, on both sides of the argument fall short. To me, it’s easy to prove, or disprove, in several ways. Apparently, for many people, it is a matter of faith (or lack of). To me, it’s all about logic, reason, coincidence, likelihood, and honesty. Yes, honesty.

Before I dig into this, I want to challenge people on both sides- be honest. I understand most of us come into this argument with a bias, myself included. But it the end, reason and logic HAS to win, not faith.

We shouldn’t follow any teaching with blind faith- believing (or disbelieving) simply because we want to, or should, or think we ought to- or not. As thinking beings, we should strive for logic and reason for our conclusions. In this article, I will spell out the logic and reasons for my conclusions. And I invite you to comment, adding your logic and reason for yours.

It’s an age-old question, and one thinking people still ponder. So, let us ponder together.

Is God Real?

Take the following steps with me. As I lay out my reasons and logic, I want you to put yours into these same categories and see if your beliefs stack up to logic and reason, as I see it. As always, if you think I took any leaps of faith, you are welcome to comment below.

Admit Your Bias

Before we can honestly consider the alternatives, we must come to grips with our biases, and ask ourselves- are we here to prove our preconceived notions? Or are we intellectually honest, and seriously seeking the truth?

Read the paragraph above again, and please, be honest with yourself. There’s no good reason to lie to yourself.

Me, I never went to church as a kid growing up. However, I did always have a basic belief that God existed for as long as I can remember. I’m not sure why. My parents, family and friends never spoke much of it. Call it an instinct.

Do You Want God to be Real?

Sometimes our wishes can overpower what is real. Whether you want God to be real or not, I challenge you to remain open-minded enough to admit your bias, and whether or not you want Him to be real.

I had my doubts when I got older. But deep down, I always wanted God to be real. I saw that life wasn’t always fair, and wished there could be justice for all. I like it when the good guy wins. I always did.

Be Intellectually Honest

Are you really willing to follow the evidence? Really? Or are you here for a pat on the back, and reassurance for your belief? In other words, are you really just here to try to convince someone what you believe? Be honest to yourself about this. I’m sorry if you think I am pounding this point a little too much, but it is the most important thing to be fully aware of before we can continue pondering this subject honestly.

I am willing to follow the evidence. If God is real, I want to know. And if He’s not, I would hate to waste my time following my imagination. If you agree with this, read on. If you don’t agree, go to Youtube and find a one-sided video that will make you feel good about your beliefs (or lack of).

What Evidence for God is There?

Logic would suggest that if something is real, you should be able to prove it. And if something is not real, it would be more difficult to prove a negative.

So, to be intellectually honest, you’d have to admit, only an HONEST atheist or an agnostic could be convinced with evidence. On the other side of the coin, since it’s impossible to prove a negative, an HONEST person of faith would be more difficult to convince of a non-existent being.

The burden of proof falls onto the religion to prove. Atheism doesn’t have to prove anything. They believe in nothing, so it stands to reason, nothing cannot be proven.

What are You Willing to Consider as Evidence?

In all fairness, most so-called evidence can be interpreted differently, depending on the biases of the interpreter. If you don’t know that (or admit it), you are just not being intellectually honest, and again, should just go to Youtube and find a biased video that will reinforce your preconceived notions. But again, if you are still with me, read on.

In a court of law, the most common evidence presented is always eyewitness testimonies. With today’s technology, we can add to that; DNA, fingerprints, footprints, and other physical evidence; like fabric fibers or something left behind by the culprit. How about answered prayers? Miracles?

What do you Really Know About this Evidence?

Too often, someone will lay out what they call evidence, jump to a conclusion, and take another jump from there, going off on a skewed path based on a false assumption (or worse, one false assumption after another.) So, to honestly consider this subject, you have to be willing to consider every possibility that the evidence would or could suggest. And, as they say in court, be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt.

About eyewitness testimony; the court will always take into consideration the witnesses character or credibility. We should too.

Any other physical evidence must be proven to be exactly what is said, with no doubt whatsoever of any other possibility.

Proof God Does Not Exist

As mentioned, logic dictates that you cannot prove a negative, without exhausting every other possibility in the world. So, since no one can be at all places in the entire world, since the dawn of time, it is mathematically impossible to prove that God does not exist. However, sometimes, based on what evidence is available, and what our interpretation of that evidence is, it is possible that someone can come to the logical conclusion that He most likely does not exist. But, of course “most likely” will not stand in a court of law. For actual proof, we need to prove “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

Proof God Exists

There is a lot of evidence that could suggest that God does indeed exist. Of course, that depends on your interpretation of that evidence. But, logically speaking, it should be possible to prove, if it is true.

Let’s Look at Some Evidence for God

Of course, this is limited by my personal knowledge, and by no means am I an expert. I’m just one person who likes to think. Everybody has their own evidence. If the whole world got together and put all their evidence in one location, maybe then more of us would reach the same conclusion. For now, I’ll give you what little I know of.

God or Coincidences?

Sometimes I get prayers answered, miracles happen, and I get a feeling God is speaking to me through the Bible and through preachers. Then, I wonder, if He is real, or if it is all just a series of coincidences. Let me explain.

Eyewitness testimony: I have had many prayers answered in my life. A lot of people I know have too, but in keeping with the court of law (eyewitness testimony) theme, I will only tell you about my firsthand knowledge- things I have seen with my eyes.

I’ve seen people (including myself, my son, my daughter, and other friends and relatives) get miraculously healed from injuries, diseases, addictions, etc- things that were supposed to kill, maim, or leave you otherwise with a huge problem.

I found a loved-one in Chicago within just an hour (a very transient person with no contact info whatsoever, and living with someone else who I never knew), without any leads at all.

My brother found me in San Francisco without any inclination of where I’d be- at a cheap hotel where I just stayed at one time only.

On many occasions, I opened a Bible on the exact page I was seeking. Whether I was looking for a specific quote I thought might be in the Bible somewhere, or seeking an answer to a personal dilemma. I just randomly opened it to the right spot- many times. And I don’t really know the Bible that well, having read less than half of it to this day. Coincidence?

Almost every time I hear a preacher, he answers questions I was wondering, points out scripture that addresses my exact concerns, brings up quotes I was wondering about- almost every time I hear a preacher! It’s as if God Himself is speaking to me.

My Personal Experience- The Back-Story

Do you consider personal experience to be evidence? I do, if it happened to me, or someone I know and trust. So, I can tell you my personal experience. But as with any testimony, you have to consider the witness’ credibility. The following is my own personal experience.

I never went to church as a kid. I grew up in Chicago. Once in a while, on a Saturday, some church-guys from the First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana would come along with their white shirts and ties, going door-to-door, asking everyone to attend their church. When I was thirteen, me and a few friends agreed to go. We were a bunch of punks who spent our time stealing car batteries and stereos to sell, so we could buy a nickel-bag of pot. The only reason we went was because we were bored, and so we could visit Indiana.

When we got there, we all agreed to sneak outside to smoke cigarettes and see the town. Somehow, I lost my friends, and wound up sitting in church alone listening to the sermon by myself. This was the only time I ever attended that church, and the next time I went to any church would be three decades later.

The preacher was a powerful speaker, with a booming voice, and a convincing authority about him. I listened intently and was blown away by some of the things he said. I had no idea about any of it, yet. To this day, I have no recollection of what he said, or who he was. But I do have a powerful memory of what I felt that day.

At some point during his sermon, I felt the presence of God come into me. I had an awakening that day, a sudden realization that God was real, His name was Jesus, and He was inside me. I cried like a baby, agreed in prayer to God that I was a sinner and needed His forgiveness, but no one seemed to notice.

I met my friends a while later, as we boarded the bus. They told me about the cool stuff they saw, and I told them I just sat in church. We never went there again.

Since that day, it would be difficult to convince me that God was not real. I felt Him, I know.

Are We Brainwashed?

Is it possible that I was brainwashed by a crafty preacher, and felt some emotion that I mistook for God’s presence inside me? After all, I was only thirteen. I never was taught anything about being “saved”. Yet, that day, I am convinced, I was.

More Miracles (or Coincidences)

About twenty years later, my son had a terrible accident. He was hit by a car and crushed his skull. The doctor told me and my wife that, “He has about two tablespoons of brain matter outside of his skull, and it would have to be removed.” And that, “He would most likely die during surgery, and if he lived, he would very likely be a paraplegic, and likely never talk, see, hear, and that any recovery whatsoever would be extremely lucky.”

Without a word, we walked together down the hall and into the bathroom, where we both threw up at the same time. That was the worst news I was ever told in my life, still to this day.

He remained in a coma for three weeks, with no response whatsoever. Life support systems kept him alive.

The hospital was very far from home so we stayed at the Ronald Mcdonald House. (A wonderful place to donate money to, if you ever wonder what is a worthy charity.) They had a prayer room, and me and my wife went there several times daily and prayed for a miracle.

My prayer was always a crying, begging prayer, desperately asking God to spare my only son. About three weeks into it, I got tired of begging, and just surrendered to whatever was inevitable. I prayed, “God, if you are going to take him, just take him. If he’s going to be a vegetable, just take him. Do what You will.” Basically, I just surrendered and gave it to God.

With those words, I had a sudden realization that he was not going to die, and that he was going to recover. It was as if God told me, without any audible voice. Just a reassuring feeling. It was so overwhelming, I was convinced I heard from God. I ran to my wife and told her, God spoke to me and our son would be OK.

Within a day or two, he started coming out of his coma. First with little responses- like shaking off the doctors’ pinch, then words, then one eye opened. And within a week or so, he was up, walking, though only speaking a few words (yeah, shit, home).

It was a long, tedious recovery, but he recovered! He does still have some permanent damage- double vision at some angles, deaf in one ear, and a lower IQ. But he is doing just fine physically, and is now a strong, healthy man who can walk, talk, run, carry a refrigerator, whatever. Coincidence? Good luck? I call it a miracle.

More Prayers Answered

Since then, I have had many incidences of prayers being answered. I’ll give you a couple of them.

One day, I was unemployed and flat broke, and needed $175 for a phone bill. A local scrap yard owed me $30, but the gas to go get it would be about $10, so I wasn’t too excited about that. I started my truck, looked at the gas gauge (just barely enough to make it there). I prayed, “God, please let me make the money for the phone bill somehow.”

Now, I was living in a small town. And although I used to find scrap easily when I lived in Chicago, out here (population 1600), it was very rare indeed.

I took off and turned the corner. There was a hot water heater. I turned another corner and there was a stove. I turned another corner and there was a pile of pipes. I went down an alley and found some more scrap. As I was loading it, a man walked out of his house and approached me, saying, “I don’t know why, but God told me to give you this.” And he handed me $40. I answered him, “This really is from God because I prayed for it only ten minutes ago.”

When I cashed in at the scrapyard, and picked up the $30 he owed me, I left with exactly $175. Coincidence? I think not.

Then there was the time I went looking for my daughter who had run away. I knew she went to Chicago (about 100 miles away). But I had no idea where in that huge city she would go. We drove around looking for her for only about an hour, and then we found her. Coincidence? Luck? No, a miracle.

Then, just two years ago, my back gave me a huge problem. I always had back aches here and there, but this time I was literally crippled with pain. For three months, I was bedridden. It took all my strength, just to go to the bathroom.

I lost my job, and after my meager savings was exhausted, I had no money at all. When I told my landlord my situation, that I couldn’t pay my rent for months, he said, “Don’t worry about the rent”. Miraculously, I got a huge income tax check, the biggest one ever ($8000).

The doctor told me I had degenerative spine, and it would likely get worse and worse as time passed. I resigned to the idea that I was crippled for life. I spent a lot of quality time with God in those days, laying in bed, praying.

Well, I got better. I started walking, then exercising a little, then hanging (trying to do pull-ups), then Tae-bo. I lost about 35 pounds, and in a few months I was ridding my bike, playing basketball, and living pain-free. Good luck? Coincidence? No way.

I have a very good friend who had a worse back injury than I did. His spine was severed from his (crushed) pelvis. Doctors told him he would never walk again. These days, he is one of the most active people I know. Ask him if there’s a God. He knows it for a fact, and serves Him daily, feeding poor people at a local food pantry. And hes, he carries the boxes, drives the truck, walks, all of it.

This article is becoming a book, so I’ll cut it short. But the bottom line is, I know for a fact there is a God, His name is Jesus, and He still does miracles.

Just Look Around You

Consider this; take a look around you. Science teaches us that life formed by sheer chance- A single-celled organism, which evolved into every life form we know of. A major coincidence, if you will. Do you really think it’s possible, that all of these coincidences took place? Think about how many coincidences it took- Molecules in the oceans accidentally met and formed a living cell. Then that cell found a mate. No scientist has ever been able to prove that in a laboratory. But they still believe it.

What About the Big Bang?

And what about the Big Bang? All the matter in the Universe came from a tiny dot, defying the first law of thermodynamics. It’s impossible. There’s no way all that matter can just explode out of nothing. And there’s no way possible for life to magically appear in the ocean.

And What About Evolution?

Another miracle if you ask me. Even though every living organism can be observed having offspring just like itself, science books teach us we evolved. Another example of science teaching something that no one ever observed. In my opinion, it’s impossible, all of it- The Big Bang, single celled organism just happening, evolution- all of it is a bigger miracle than what I have seen with my own eyes (the testimonies above).

Take This Challenge

If you are still reading, but still doubtful, I have a challenge for you, and a way you can prove it to yourself. If you are an atheist, or even just a little agnostic, just try this…

First, consider the Ten Commandments, and your sin. Don’t read this part too quickly. It’s important to contemplate each point.

Have you ever lied? (Of course, we all have.)

Have you ever stolen anything? (Of course, we all have.)

Have you ever looked upon a person of the opposite sex and lusted? (Again, we all have.) Jesus said, “If you ever looked upon a woman in lust you have already committed adultery in your heart.”

Have you ever used God’s name in vain?

By your own admission, you are a liar, a thief, an adulterer at heart, and a blasphemer. You’ve already broken four commandments and we haven’t even talked about the other six. (Don’t feel bad, I am all of that and more myself- we all are.)

The Bible says we all have to face God on judgement day. If that’s true, do you think He’d find you guilty, and send you to hell?

God’s laws, the Ten Commandments, are like a mirror. They show us that we are all guilty.

The good news is, Jesus paid the price for you (and me), and all you have to do is believe that, repent, and trust Him.

Pray with me. Even if you have your doubts about the whole God/Jesus thing. Just pray with me here, and see if He shows Himself to you…

Dear God, I know I am a sinner. I’ve broken just about all of your commandments, and I’m sorry. I’m truly sorry. Please forgive me. The Bible says if I simply repent and put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Savior and Lord, I can be forgiven from all my sins. I have a lot of sins God. And I really am sorry. The Bible says You are faithful and just to forgive, and I’m claiming that forgiveness. I believe Jesus died on the cross, and rose again, conquering death and sin. And He did it all so that I may have eternal life. Thank you God, for forgiving me. Thank you for granting me eternal life. I believe in You, and I trust You. Thank you so much.

Amen

If you prayed that prayer, and meant it from your heart, you are saved! Now go find a Bible and study it. If you do, God will show Himself to you in many ways.

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Footnote: A lot of people believe they will go to heaven simply because they are a good person. But that is not what the Bible teaches. Please read this for more on that.



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39 comments for “Is God Real? How We Can Know for a Fact

  1. Mr. Widemouth
    November 27, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    What good is the blood of Jesus? http://www.squidoo.com/power-in-the-blood-of-jesus

  2. norman whitton
    December 5, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    “DO NOT BE AFRAID, ABRAM. I AM YOUR SHEILD,YOUR VERY GREAT REWARD”. {GENESIS 15:1} WE MUST ALL STAND WITH ISRAEL IF ISRAEL FALLS WESTERN CIVILIZATION FALLS.

  3. Ilaria B
    December 30, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Quote: “There is no truly “standard model” of the origin of life.” So, no, real scientists don’t teach us how life evolved because they don’t know.
    Second, aout the Big Bang Theory. quote: “One problem is that there is currently no theoretical model that explains the earliest moments of the universe’s existence”. It’s called Plank Time, science doesn’t know what happened during that time. Otherwise, it’s a fact (and be honest, please, there’s ton of proof. If you want me to, I’ll give you that) that the universe expanded.
    Third, about evolution. Quote: “Evolutionary theory refers to an explanation for the diversity of species and their ancestry which has met extremely high standards of scientific evidence.” Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_evolution. If you argue that it’s Wikipedia, I’ll give you tons of articles on Evolution.

    Have a good day and please, answer. I’m curious about your ideas. Forgive my English but it’s not my first language if I said something confusing, let me know.

  4. December 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Good point Ilaria B-

    Quote; “…real scientists don’t teach us how life evolved because they don’t know.”
    I agree completely. Well, at least that’s how it should be. Unfortunately, there are a lot of zealous atheists, and misinformed others running around crying “science says”, when in reality, it is they who are in denial. Any intellectually honest person has to admit, nobody really knows for sure how it all began, or how far so-called evolution can actually take a species.

    I know the Universe is expanding. (Which means it had to have a beginning at some time in the past.) Creationists and evolutionists agree on this. We just disagree on exactly how long ago that was.

    Quote: “Evolutionary theory refers to an explanation for the diversity of species and their ancestry which has met extremely high standards of scientific evidence.”
    I agree evolution explains the diversity of species, and to a limit, their ancestors. But, as we go back in time, it all becomes guesswork. There is simply no way we can know for certain anything that we cannot test and observe. We can only guess at this point. And many knowledgeable people disagree about how far anything can or has evolved.

    For example, to assume that birds evolved from dinosaurs (reptiles) is simply imagination. And in my opinion, impossible. There are many fossils in sedimentary layers that contain birds and dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were cold-blooded reptiles. And birds are warm-blooded mammals. The differences are startling, lungs, feathers vs scales, bone structures, and more. It’s just impossible.

    The same can be said for man evolving from an ape-like ancestor. I don’t buy it, one bit. The differences are startling. People often try to argue about so-called transitional fossils. But too often, they have no idea just how many transitions are required.

    Paleontologists historically catalog fossils in such a way that they’ll put a newly found bone or skeleton in between the two closest matches. This doesn’t prove they evolved from the most similar bones at all. It’s just the way they catalog it. For example, I can put a 5-dollar bill in between a one and a ten. Surely that doesn’t prove it a 5-dollar bill evolved from a 10-dollar bill.

    By the way, your English is just fine.

    • Ilaria B
      December 30, 2011 at 4:03 pm

      Thank you for your answer.

      Did you know that chimpanzee has DNA that almost equal to ours? (99%) Only a mere 1% makes us different from them.

      This website contains ton of evidence on evolution (and lots of links to articles which are too long to write here)
      http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html

      “And birds are warm-blooded mammals.” Since when BIRDS are MAMMALS?

      “Paleontologists historically catalog fossils in such a way that they’ll put a newly found bone or skeleton in between the two closest matches. This doesn’t prove they evolved from the most similar bones at all.”

      Usually they use carbon-14 to say how old is a dead animal or a fossil, which is very precise.

      “…nobody really knows for sure how it all began, or how far so-called evolution can actually take a species.”

      I only meant to say how life began at the beginning, meaning how a non-living thing became a living thing, not how life evolved from there because of that, as I said, there’s overwhelming evidence.

      Last thing… you disagree how long ago the universe started. I’m curious: how can a book be more reliable than scientific evidence?

      Thank you again!

      • December 30, 2011 at 5:19 pm

        I believe every living thing has a purpose. Of course, we haven’t found all those purposes yet. For example, we would not have a lot of fruit without bees. And, many medicines are made from plants and animals (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16619367), not to mention food. I think chimpanzees, because of their similarity, can offer science (or medicine) some insight into our health. Maybe one day we will learn to use their organs for transplant, for example.

        Chimpanzee is supposedly 96% like ours (not 99%). http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html

        Assuming that proves relation is quite a stretch. Do you have any idea how complicated DNA is? A 4% difference is huge.

        The link you gave disqualifies itself in the second paragraph, “Almost all of this material has been posted at various creationism-evolution debate sites on the internet. I have found it to be quite useful for presenting the case for evolution.”

        Always consider the source.

        I know birds are not mammals. (Oops. I must have been typing faster than I was thinking- LOL.)

        You should really look into carbon-14 dating. It’s so unreliable. There are a lot of examples of it giving the wrong dates. Mount St Helens is one example I recall. A 20-year old lava flow showed dates in the hundreds of thousands of years. Also, remember the dinosaur bones with red blood cells in it? They carbon-tested it 17 times before they got the results they wanted. There are a lot of examples out there that discredit carbon dating.

        Another crazy thing about the way they date fossils is, the rock layers (geological scale) determine the age of the fossils, and the fossils found determine which geological layer it is. That’s circular reasoning.

        There simply is no evidence for evolution. (I’m talking about one kind of animal to another, not changes within a species.) Evidence is something you can observe and test. When an animal gives birth to a different animal, and that one gives birth to yet another, we’ll have real evidence. Until then, it’s all conjecture. Conjecture is not “overwhelming evidence”.

        Quote- “…you disagree how long ago the universe started. I’m curious: how can a book be more reliable than scientific evidence?”

        I can’t believe you even asked that one. Science evolves (no pun intended.) I’m sure you know this. Look at any science or medicine book from 100 years ago- we have come along way. Science is always changing. The Bible never changes. People have been trying to prove it wrong for over 2000 years, and they still can’t. I think any scholar, even an atheist would agree that the Bible is the most reliable historical document in all of antiquity.

        If there was any science, any flaws found in the Bible, or anything that flat out proves it wrong, I would be the first to change. But it was through this kind of research that I became a Christian. And the closer I looked, the more my faith grew.

        • Ilaria B
          December 30, 2011 at 6:12 pm

          Thanks for your answer! (Whoops, I got it wrong. I was going by heart, Sorry about the DNA thing)

          First, if you say “When an animal gives birth to a different animal, and that one gives birth to yet another, we’ll have real evidence.” means you have understood next to nothing of evolution. It doesn’t happen in one day but in a lot of time (think of Earth’s age).

          I don’t know how to give the overwhelming evidence to you since many of those articles are too in-depth.

          “If there was any science, any flaws found in the Bible, or anything that flat out proves it wrong,”

          There’s one passage in the Bible (if I remember correctly, it was Isaiah) when God stopped the Sun. Which, given we know that it’s the Earth rotating that gives us that impression, means Earth stopped. If Earth stopped,one of the worst thing that would happen is that the atmosphere would go on rotating and wind going at 1675 km/h would destroy everything. Isn’t this a flaw?

          And that science is always elvolving is a good thing because it means it let nature be the judge of what is and what isn’t. When I read the Bible, it feels like it’s telling me how nature should work but when I look outside, it’s the opposite.

          Thank you.

          • December 31, 2011 at 8:52 am

            Thank you for keeping it civil. Most atheists I debate with get angry at some point. I’m glad to see when two people can respectfully disagree.

            Quote; “…It doesn’t happen in one day but in a lot of time.”

            To me, this is a way of saying, we’ll never see it. Think about organs for example, lungs, bone structures, hands, wings, things that an animal couldn’t live without.

            Let’s look at birds as an example. If a dinosaur was to slowly evolve into a bird, first, a dinosaur would have to give birth to an animal that has a different respiratory system. It would have to happen in one step. There’s no way it could have just a small part of a different respiratory system, and live. It would have to have either a cold-blooded reptilian respiratory system or a warm-blooded bird respiratory system. Then, it couldn’t live without that fast, bird-style, heart rate. Many changes would have to happen at once, if it is to live, and a different animal would have to be born. (That’s the only way I can see it happen.)

            Quote, “I don’t know how to give the overwhelming evidence to you since many of those articles are too in-depth.”

            Just give me one, give me what you consider the best piece of evidence for evolution. This page is getting too long anyway.

            I found that Bible passage you mentioned. It’s in Joshua 10:13. http://esv.scripturetext.com/joshua/10.htm

            All I can say about that is, there is a lot of supernatural things happening in the Bible. We know a lot of things have been verified by other sources, like history, geography, etc. But when it comes to supernatural things, this is when Christians, Jews, and scholars disagree. Those (like me) who believe the whole Bible have to accept it on faith. Others may shy away from anything supernatural.

            I agree science should always evolve.

            It’s always amazing to me how two people can look at the same thing and see two different things. You said, “When I read the Bible, it feels like it’s telling me how nature should work but when I look outside, it’s the opposite.”

            When I look outside, I see God’s Creation. I see a planet that is perfectly aligned with the sun, at the exact distance from it that allows us to live in decent weather. I see food naturally growing out of the ground. I see stars floating in space in an orderly fashion. I see a moon that washes our oceans with daily tides. I see natural occurrences that refresh life, like forest fires, seasons, fresh air we can breathe. I see all this and I know it cannot be a coincidence. It’s mathematically impossible.

            I do believe in supernatural things. I have seen too many people get healed, had too many prayers answered, felt the presence of God, followed His guidance and seen the results. Some people would say it was luck, or a series of coincidences. But when I look at the Bible, the fact that people have been trying to prove it wrong for 2000+ years, and still can’t- I believe it truly is the word of God.

        • May 15, 2016 at 5:53 am

          Felt so hopeless looking for answers to my qu.usions.e.tntil now.

  5. Ilaria B
    January 1, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    “It’s always amazing to me how two people can look at the same thing and see two different things.” Ahah. True. That’s why I like talking to people who disagree with me.

    “Let’s look at birds as an example. […] and a different animal would have to be born.”

    Once again, evolution doesn’t work like that. I’m going to write an example, but it doesn’t always work like that.
    Think about a kind of birds living on a big island. One day, for whatever reason, the island breaks into two smaller island. On island 1 there are only nut-threes, only island two only apple threes. Let’s say the birds are used to eat apples. They’ll have hard time breaking nuts, right? After some time, a bird with a slight different beak (casual DNA mutation) is born and it’s easier for it to break the nuts! Of course, his offsprings will live easier. After a couple of centuries, there’ll probably only birds with the mutated beaks. So, even if humans will say that they are different birds, they came from the same species. A similar things had happened and it’s written in Darwin’s book. When I find it, I’ll write it.

    “When I look outside, […] impossible.”

    I’ll probably say the same thing – but meaning I don’t believe in a god. For example, Earth is in a favorable place in our system, you’ve said it too, but look at the universe – how many planets, how many systems? There’s at last a probabily we find a planet like Earth!

    I’m curious – how do you deal with the wrong things that happen? Whenever I debate with believers, they always dodge that question.

    Thank you for your time!

    • January 1, 2012 at 5:56 pm

      Hi Ilaria B,

      I agree with your island analogy. It’s just like Darwin’s finches on the Galapagos Islands. This is not evolution. It’s natural selection. The birds with the stronger beaks would survive because they can get the food. The ones who cannot get the food will die. I get that. But there is no mutation with this example. It is simply natural selection- Existing information (some birds already had a strong beak). That doesn’t explain how one animal can evolve into another. It only explains why the ones with strong beaks survive.

      I know a lot of people think natural selection is evolution, or at least an important part of it. I know natural selection happens, we can see it. But, just because one animal who is stronger can survive a given situation, that doesn’t prove evolution. It takes imagination to try to visualize anything beyond natural selection.

      Also, I understand that mutations do happen. But in every case I have ever seen, it is a loss of information, or jumbled information. For example, someone might be born with three arms. Even if that third arm is healthy and useful, it came there because the human body already knows how to make an arm, but it made a mistake and produced an extra arm. But it would not be passed down to the next generation. I saw a baby with three arms here- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7fy4BM4fmU. I wish I had three arms sometimes!

      Quote- “I’m curious – how do you deal with the wrong things that happen? Whenever I debate with believers, they always dodge that question.”

      I agree, there is a lot of sad and terrible things that happen in this world. Good people get killed, bad people get away with murder, disasters happen, disease, starvation, etc. I have struggled with this too. But here’s what I think (and I stole this idea from a Chinese symbol- the Yin-yang.)

      With everything in life, opposites must exist. Without darkness, there cannot be light.

      In order for “good” to exist, “bad”, or “evil” must also exist. If everybody was good all the time, and nobody was evil, we would all be like robots- unthinking beings.

      In order for love to exist, hate must exist. It would be impossible to love someone if we didn’t have a choice to hate.

      I think this is the same reason why God doesn’t show Himself to us all. Think about this- If God showed Himself to the world, and He really was all-powerful, able to do anything (as the Bible says), we would all tremble in fear. We would all do whatever He wanted. That would not be because we love Him. It would be because we fear Him.

      God is love, according to the Bible. If He really loves us, He as to give us the choice to love or hate. Otherwise, there would be no love, only fear.

      Thank you, I enjoy your questions an comments. I think every thinking person wonders about these things, and it’s fun to talk about it, try to analyze it, and figure out life.

  6. Ilaria B
    January 2, 2012 at 11:22 am

    I found a website about evolution: http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-evolution.html (the authors, I checked, are professors at various universities. I suppose they are the most valid sources I can find on the web). This page is interesting http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ (it contains evidence for macroevolution).

    “I think this is the same reason why God doesn’t show Himself to us all. […] That would not be because we love Him. It would be because we fear Him.”

    Unfortunately for my argument, I like this answer. Haha. It does make sense. I will suggest it to my friends who are believers.

    So you see god like a father who leaves his children to choose their own life. And what about non-believers? Will god forgive us for this?

    Sometimes I’m told that I don’t believe in a god because I’m mad at him. I do think that some people don’t WANT to believe in a god, rather than think it through and conclude it’s not necessary. Do you think that non-believers like me only want to reject god because of some personal reason? On the other hand, maybe believers want to believe because of a need, rather than because of “rationality”. Don’t remember where, but I read on a scientific magazine that people need to believe in something, it’s in our nature.

    When I was a child, I believed in God but I always felt bad about it (mostly because of the bad things happening in the world). I always asked him to show himself to me so that I could truly believe in him (like, asking him to move the curtain and things like that). In the light of this, I may thik that it’s god’s fault I don’t believe in him anymore because he didn’t give me any proof. How do you answer to this?

    Thank you!

    • January 2, 2012 at 1:16 pm

      I am very familiar with talkorigins.com. They exist solely to defend evolution. So, they are definitely a biased source. But maybe everybody is biased on this subject. I think evolution is mostly a philosophical subject. So in that sense, we are all a bit biased, myself included. I think that also answers your other point…

      I believe, in a way, we all come to this argument with a preconceived notion. I don’t know if you are mad at God. I wouldn’t say that unless I knew you better. But I would guess that maybe you don’t want God to exist. I think this is the important question to ask ourselves when we discuss this- Do we ant God to exist? Or do we hope He doesn’t exist?

      You said, “I always asked him to show himself to me so that I could truly believe in him (like, asking him to move the curtain and things like that). In the light of this, I may thik that it’s god’s fault I don’t believe in him anymore because he didn’t give me any proof”

      I agree completely with this statement. But I also believe that God does show Himself to us when we ask Him to. So, I would ask you- did you really look for Him? Maybe you should take a step back and consider some of the good luck you had in your life. Could it be coincidence? Maybe God was there all along.

      • Ilaria B
        January 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm

        “Do we ant God to exist? Or do we hope He doesn’t exist?”

        Yeah, I do think too it’s an important question. I want, even if it’s difficult, to be honest, even if it’s now what I’d like it to be like. So, I often I ask myself if I’m a non believer because it’s right or because I want to. To tell you the truth, my question considers all gods because I find it almost impossibile that god is like the Christian one or another. For me, a god is more like something that created this universe. It can be another race that created a universe in a laboratory as well.

        “I agree completely with this statement. […] Maybe God was there all along.”

        Well, maybe I am biased (haha) but I can’t think of a time where I felt god beside me.

        Do you think that usually believers are honest with themselves?

        Thank you so much for your answers! Am I writing too much on your page, maybe? Sorry if that is the case.

        • January 4, 2012 at 10:43 am

          Thank you for your replies and opinions. This conversation is getting long, but that’s OK. I think a lot of readers are thinking the same things we are, so I don’t mind.

          Quote: “…I can’t think of a time where I felt god beside me.”

          I don’t think you would necessarily “feel” God’s presence, although I have a time or two. What I meant was, consider all the coincidences in your life, that worked out to your benefit, from personal experience, to general survival coincidences. And ask yourself, is it really possible that there are that many coincidences?

          For me, I was miraculously healed from five herniated disks. When I was on crutches and in crippling pain, two doctors told me my Degenerative Spine Disease would get worse as I got older. But after some hard work, I am now in nearly the best shape of my life- I am no longer in constant pain, I can walk, run, do pull-ups, I practice Tae-bo, and I am very active.

          An even bigger miracle happened to my son, and a good friend. Me and my wife have had so many prayers answered, I should write a book.

          Quote: “Do you think that usually believers are honest with themselves?”

          I think both sides of the spectrum have a wide range of opinions. So, yes, a lot of believers are honest, and a lot are not. It depends on someones level of faith.

          Some churches only teach the basics- God is love, good advice, protector, etc. I think these churches are the least informed, and as such, rely more on faith than knowledge.

          On the other hand, some churches teach the whole Bible, and are not afraid to tackle politically incorrect subjects, or controversial topics, like gay issues, Gods punishing attributes, Creation, etc.

          I think those churches, who fully educate their people, not only what the Bible says, but what history, science, and mainstream schools of thought teach, and contrast that with what is proven to be true vs what most people think. In other words, the more educated a Christian is, the more likely he will be to have a strong, unshakable faith.

          That’s what works for me. The more I learn, the stronger my faith grows. It’s important to know what is scientific vs what is philosophical, what is historic vs what is assumed, and, of course, what is right and what is wrong.

          Thank you for your time.

  7. Rusko
    March 5, 2012 at 11:02 am

    I’m sorry, but you haven’t convinced me. I read the title of this article and thought possibly you might offer some evidence for the existence of god. I really want the stories of god and the everlasting kingdom of heaven to be true. I long for any kind of evidence to back up the legends. That’s probably what kept me reading your article to see what evidence you may be presenting.

    I’m disappointed.

    I don’t consider personal experiences (or more accurately, personal interpretations of their experiences) to be evidence of anything supernatural. My mom thinks that god is real because when my dad was having a heart attack, all the traffic lights turned green for her on the way to the hospital. She is not that technical, and it never occurred to her that the traffic lights are on a timer and that she just happened to be going the right speed to catch them during their timed sequence. Still even after explaining that to her, she would rather believe it was god. If that gives her comfort, so be it. I am more honest than that with myself.

    Even in a court of law, “hearsay” evidence is considered flimsy. In science, anecdotal evidence is the same as no evidence at all. It’s not enough to say, “it happened to me”. You must be able to repeat the experiment and provide details on how others may also repeat the experiment. If you cannot, then it is likely that it was a coincidence or pure luck.

    If you think that you can actually prove the existence of god or anything supernatural, you should contact the James Randi Educational Foundation. They are offering $1 million dollars to anyone that can prove it.

    I know you’ve convinced yourself, and likely have lots of reinforcement from other like minded believers, but I’m pretty sure you’ll need some hard scientific evidence to convince people like me, who are honest enough with themselves and fearless enough to demand real proof.

    • March 9, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Thank you for your comment. It’s true that all I have to offer is my personal experience. I am convinced that there is no possible way it could be just a series of coincidences. Somebody up there likes me.

      What do you have to say about the accuracy of the Bible? People have been trying to prove it wrong for over 2000 years and still can’t. Coincidence?

      For me, this was the final step. The closer I looked at it, the more convinced I was. At this stage in my life (having spent a few months debating atheists back in 2007, researching so-called Bible fallacies, and looking at the questionable science of evolution, ans since then having so many prayers answered), I now say I am absolutely certain that not only is God real, His name is Jesus, and the Bible is His actual infallible Word.

      I welcome your responses.

  8. Dean Jarmin
    December 5, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    I, like Rusko, remain unconvinced. To my way of thinking, I don’t have to read far at all to find proof that the book itself (Bible) is wrong or inaccurate. Seven days and seven nights? Comeon.
    There has never been any evidence of a so-called Ark discovered, or any other solid piece of material that could be scientifically
    proven to be from the Old Testament era. There are many “miracles”
    and supernatural occurrencese described in the Bible that are only
    seen in this world “at the movie”.
    I attended church as a child and have read a consideable amount of the Bible several times. I still own 3 or 4 copies. I am glad to you and so many other people find such comfort and peace with believing so compassionately.
    As for myself, the more I learn the harder it is for me to mantain
    any “faith” in a “God” that there is no proof of other than someone elses perception of coinidence. I’m sure there are people in the
    Islamic world that feel the same way. It is, as you say, a simple
    honest examination of the facts as I percieve them. Thank you for your thought provoking article.

  9. Robert Connell
    June 7, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    I grew up in the First Baptist Church, so with information I was able to form my own opinion and thoughts on this matter,. In the times of “the Bible” people had to believe in something other than themselves to have something or someone to turn to (to blame) because they had no modern medicine to help them when they were sick. If ya got sick and lived it was a marcel. If ya died, well it was “Gods will”.

    The Bible is a book of stories that has been add to and deleted from by “the church”. If we could get into “the churches archives” there is no telling what kinds of mysteries we could solve. Like mass murder by “the Butcher” King David

    Who’s God is the “real God anyway? Or were they all up there on the cloud?

    What about Higgs Boson? There’s some pretty compelling evidence there about the Big Bang.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/9374758/Higgs-boson-scientists-99.999-sure-God-Particle-has-been-found.html

    • June 8, 2013 at 5:59 am

      You said, “The Bible is a book of stories that has been add to and deleted from…”

      That is not true. I can see how someone who never studied it would think that, but it’s simply not the case. The Bible does in fact exactly match the oldest transcripts ever found (which are the Dead Sea Scrolls, abt 250 BC to 100 AD) http://seethescrolls.com/exhibition/about-the-scroll-fragments.

      The closer you look at the historical evidence, there is only one logical conclusion- the Bible must be the actual word of God- nothing else can explain the accuracy of it, how it could have survived, all the accurate predictions it made (and still makes). It’s the most scrutinized book in the history of the world, and even though it is 2000-3500 years old it still holds true.

      And, about the Big Bang, there is no conflict. God created the Universe, so it stands to reason it appeared out of nowhere, just like the Big Bang predicts.

      Thanks for commenting.

      • Robert Connell
        June 8, 2013 at 8:35 am

        Check out Banned from the Bible on the History Channel.

        The Bible i read said God created Heaven and Earth, not the universe. Heaven his steeets paved with gold, not dark matter and dark energy.

        You may be living in a bubble.

        • Robert Connell
          June 8, 2013 at 8:40 am

          I thought i saw a comment earlier in this post where it was said the Big Bang was impossible according to physics. Is it or is it not possible?

          • June 8, 2013 at 10:57 am

            The Big Bang does totally defy physics. It claims that all the matter in the Universe came from a tiny dot, or even nothing at all. The 1st law of thermodynamics clearly says that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Any matter cannot be created or destroyed. But somehow during the Big Bang days all that science didn’t apply. See this- http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=292304

            But even if modern scientists agree that the Big Bang defied physics and happened, that’s fine with me because I know that it did come into existence suddenly- God spoke it into existence.

          • Robert Connell
            June 9, 2013 at 10:15 am

            Physics “as we know it” TODAY, and yet they did it with the Hadron collider. Amazing stuff. Guess GOD made that too.

          • June 14, 2013 at 8:24 pm

            Are you saying they created a big bang with the hadron collider? Or defied physics in some way?

            By the way, I love that huge one- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

            I can’t wait to see what they do next.

          • Robert Connell
            June 14, 2013 at 9:33 pm

            http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/banned-from-the-bible/

            Your just out to make money, right?

          • June 15, 2013 at 4:59 am

            I’ve seen it. There are good reasons those books were not put in the Bible. They were written too late, and told of a different God.

        • June 8, 2013 at 10:48 am

          The Bible clearly states that God made the Universe…

          “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth… God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.” (Genesis 1:1, 31)

          “God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.” (Genesis 1:16)

          “You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you.” (Nehemiah 9:6)

          You said, “Heaven his steeets paved with gold, not dark matter and dark energy.”

          Are you saying that’s all there is in space? Dark matter and dark energy?

          Talk about living in a bubble….

          Look, it’s very easy to just take one minute and Google these things. I suggest you do that before you make another 5th-grade comment.

          • Robert Connell
            June 14, 2013 at 9:27 pm

            Yes it is amazing!
            So which God greated “Heaven and earth” (and thats what it says) in 6 days? On the 7th day GOD had to rest. ?Really? Why would GOD need a to take a rest?

            Science has proven that the earth is BILLIONS of years old. It has taken that long for the earth and Man to evolve to what we are today.

            If GOD does EVERYTHING it sure takes it along time for him/ it to snap its finger.

            Whos GOD did all this stuff? Or are there a gang if um workin on it?

            What about Banned from the bible?

            What about “good king David” and the atrocities he committed in the name of your GOD?

          • June 15, 2013 at 5:21 am

            You’re starting to rant now, but I’ll try to address it…

            Which God? The one true God, the Creator, the God of the Bible.

            It doesn’t say God HAD to rest. It just says He rested. Maybe it was to teach us to rest. We need it.

            Science has not proven billions of years. If it did, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Many scientists interpret the evidence differently. There is a long list of PhD’s who believe in a young earth. You can’t simply say “science say” when there is this much disagreement.

            I never said God does everything.

            David was a man after God’s heart, and yet he was a terrible sinner. That’s the beauty of the Gospel. We are all sinners- terrible, selfish, lying, adulterous thieves. And while we were yet sinners, Christ forgave us.

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  10. Matt
    July 7, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    Their are two things I do not understand. How come in all of history, god has never answered the prayer of any amputee to have their limb grown back. The second thing is can you explain gods logic for dead babies. Thank you for your time.

    • July 26, 2014 at 7:34 am

      Hi Matt,
      The first thing that comes to mind is- He did, in a way- it’s called prosthetic’s.
      Also, Jesus did heal many “lame” people, and we are not sure exactly what was lame about them. He also put a man’s ear back on after Peter cut it off. But arms and legs- I don’t know. However, just because you and I can’t recall any incident of God growing a new limb on somebody, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. And dead babies- sad but true too. I think both points address the same overall, deeper point, which is- why is there pain and suffering for so many seemingly innocent people?
      I can’t say why. But I can say that God did warn us that we will have trouble in this life.
      Another thing to consider is- your question, although it is a good one, is based on some preconceived notions- that God would or should do it, if He was all He claims to be. Although I do agree with that premise, I also know that God is bigger and more complicated than we can even fathom.
      There are a lot of things that we wish God would do, but He doesn’t. This is where faith comes in. If you believe the Bible, you’ll expect trials and tribulations- you’ll also expect God to deliver you from them, in some way.
      This makes me think of Joni Eareckson Tada. She’s a quad­riplegic who has a TV show and has spent her life serving God. Sometimes I’ll watch her show and feel so sorry for her. I pray she gets up and walks, that God uses her to demonstrate His love and power, and just heal this lame woman. So far, He hasn’t. I still believe He could though.

  11. July 26, 2014 at 2:01 am

    You basically said nothing to no one, you offered no proof or logic other than wishing, remember wishing does not make it so. Go back to college and really listen.

    • July 26, 2014 at 6:42 am

      Obviously you didn’t read it. It’s eyewitness testimony- the most popular and accepted form of evidence in any courtroom. You are the one clinging to your wishes. I set out to learn the truth, and I did. I saw the proof, I was there, it happened to me- many times, over and over- and to people around me. The only disagreeable, logical response you can possibly have is- you don’t believe me personally for some reason.

  12. Michael
    September 3, 2014 at 7:12 am

    You can be sure that the ISIS fighters in the Middle East can make just as sincere an argument for the divinity of Allah.

    • September 3, 2014 at 8:35 am

      Not so. Well, they may be sincere, but these are uneducated, brainwashed people. ISIS fighters, in my opinion, are exactly the same as any other suicide bomber- they are brainwashed, have never read the Quran, let alone history or science, and only believe what some leader told them. It’s very easy to debunk the Quran. Just look at history for one thing. Islam was invented in the 600’s. And yet, every Muslim will tell you that Jesus was a Muslim, as was Abraham and other Old Testament figures that lived thousands of years before Mohammed invented the religion. Mohammed simply took the parts of the Bible he liked and made up the rest as he wrote his own religion. I am convinced if more Muslims knew some history, they’d become Christians.
      Christianity on the other hand, history does back up. And although many pastors would argue Christians need to read their Bible more as well, there is a Bible in just about every home, every motel room, everywhere. Plus, people in Christian countries are forced into an education- they’re required by law to learn history and science. Not so in a lot of Middle East areas, where kids are raised by extremists, fighting in wars when they’re 12.
      Sincere? Yes, sincerely brainwashed. You may think the same thing about me. But I can promise you this- If you could show me anything that disproves the Bible, I will become the biggest atheist you ever knew. It’s not there- I looked, hard, when I was searching for truth. The harder you look at history especially, and archaeology, the stronger your faith grows. An educated Christian is the strongest believer. I don’t think you could say that about Muslims.

  13. Nanci
    October 3, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    Thank you for taking the time to write this article. I appreciate the concerted effort you took to reach out to non-believers. It was a great start to this article. I am still an atheist. I’d like to believe in God, but I am unable to right now. I was raised in church, and enjoy the Christian culture. I still attend a church regularly. By the way, the pastor you heard as a youth was Pastor Jack Hyles. He was a very dynamic preacher, with a powerful presence. I have many fond memories if listening to him preach.

    • October 4, 2014 at 9:11 am

      I think you’re right, it was most likely Jack Hyles. I saw on their website that he was their preacher at that time. Thank you for the kind words.

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